can t run any dos games

I've tried several DOS games and they all lock up Vista and I have to turn off the computer. A few gave a blue screen, memory dump etc., others just lock up.
Are DOS games no longer supported? These all worked fine under XP. I've tried setting the compatibility mode, but that didn't help.
Or (since all these games run at 320x200) does Vista no longer allow such low resolutions even for games? This mode isn't listed in the List All Modes - List of valid modes, but 320x200 works fine under XP.

None of mine work - ZZT was a classic favourite ;o) doesn't work on Vista though.
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--: Original message follows :-- "Mike Wiering" <Mike Wiering@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

I've tried several DOS games and they all lock up Vista and I have to turn off the computer. A few gave a blue screen, memory dump etc., others just lock up.
Are DOS games no longer supported? These all worked fine under XP. I've tried setting the compatibility mode, but that didn't help.
Or (since all these games run at 320x200) does Vista no longer allow such low resolutions even for games? This mode isn't listed in the List All Modes - List of valid modes, but 320x200 works fine under XP.

Command and Conquer doesn't work, neither does Doom or Battle Isle or Descent... :(
-Antti-
"Zack Whittaker" wrote:

None of mine work - ZZT was a classic favourite ;o) doesn't work on Vista though.
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--: Original message follows :-- "Mike Wiering" <Mike Wiering@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message I've tried several DOS games and they all lock up Vista and I have to turn off the computer. A few gave a blue screen, memory dump etc., others just lock up.
Are DOS games no longer supported? These all worked fine under XP. I've tried setting the compatibility mode, but that didn't help.
Or (since all these games run at 320x200) does Vista no longer allow such low resolutions even for games? This mode isn't listed in the List All Modes - List of valid modes, but 320x200 works fine under XP.

Try to download Dosbox (find link on googel) and run it in dosbox... if you can get dosbox to run all the good old dosgames should work (including those that did not work in XP)
"AnttiA" wrote:

Command and Conquer doesn't work, neither does Doom or Battle Isle or Descent... :(
-Antti-
"Zack Whittaker" wrote:
None of mine work - ZZT was a classic favourite ;o) doesn't work on Vista though.
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--: Original message follows :-- "Mike Wiering" <Mike Wiering@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message I've tried several DOS games and they all lock up Vista and I have to turn off the computer. A few gave a blue screen, memory dump etc., others just lock up.
Are DOS games no longer supported? These all worked fine under XP. I've tried setting the compatibility mode, but that didn't help.
Or (since all these games run at 320x200) does Vista no longer allow such low resolutions even for games? This mode isn't listed in the List All Modes - List of valid modes, but 320x200 works fine under XP.

I know DosBox, it's awfully slow (even with right configurations and frame skip added and more cycles and etc...). Windows XP with Sounblaster emulator works much better... ^^;
Problem with Vista seems to be that there ain't absolutely no anykind of VESA support in console. In XP there was partitial, it was enought for most of games. huoh.. I guess I need Windows 98 installed on computer under VmWare Workstation with virtual soundcard...
"FarmerHE" wrote:

Try to download Dosbox (find link on googel) and run it in dosbox... if you can get dosbox to run all the good old dosgames should work (including those that did not work in XP)
"AnttiA" wrote:
Command and Conquer doesn't work, neither does Doom or Battle Isle or Descent... :(
-Antti-
"Zack Whittaker" wrote:
None of mine work - ZZT was a classic favourite ;o) doesn't work on Vista though.
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--: Original message follows :-- "Mike Wiering" <Mike Wiering@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message I've tried several DOS games and they all lock up Vista and I have to turn off the computer. A few gave a blue screen, memory dump etc., others just lock up.
Are DOS games no longer supported? These all worked fine under XP. I've tried setting the compatibility mode, but that didn't help.
Or (since all these games run at 320x200) does Vista no longer allow such low resolutions even for games? This mode isn't listed in the List All Modes - List of valid modes, but 320x200 works fine under XP.

Yes, DosBox works fine, but for most games it's not fast / smooth enough IMO.
It looks like the problem occurs as soon as a DOS program tries to change the video mode. Even a tiny program that only switches to mode 13h (320x200) and back locks up just like any game.
Anyway, Vista should at least show some kind of message and close the game instead of locking up. Or better, let you setup an emulator for programs it doesn't support anymore and launch it automatically when you start such programs.
"AnttiA" wrote:

I know DosBox, it's awfully slow (even with right configurations and frame skip added and more cycles and etc...). Windows XP with Sounblaster emulator works much better... ^^;
Problem with Vista seems to be that there ain't absolutely no anykind of VESA support in console. In XP there was partitial, it was enought for most of games. huoh.. I guess I need Windows 98 installed on computer under VmWare Workstation with virtual soundcard...
"FarmerHE" wrote:
Try to download Dosbox (find link on googel) and run it in dosbox... if you can get dosbox to run all the good old dosgames should work (including those that did not work in XP)
"AnttiA" wrote:
Command and Conquer doesn't work, neither does Doom or Battle Isle or Descent... :(
-Antti-
"Zack Whittaker" wrote:
None of mine work - ZZT was a classic favourite ;o) doesn't work on Vista though.
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--: Original message follows :-- "Mike Wiering" <Mike Wiering@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message I've tried several DOS games and they all lock up Vista and I have to turn off the computer. A few gave a blue screen, memory dump etc., others just lock up.
Are DOS games no longer supported? These all worked fine under XP. I've tried setting the compatibility mode, but that didn't help.
Or (since all these games run at 320x200) does Vista no longer allow such low resolutions even for games? This mode isn't listed in the List All Modes - List of valid modes, but 320x200 works fine under XP.

I totally agree with you. Vista should show somekind of message which says that "This dos program is not compatible with vista's command prompt." Or something like that. And then give a help note with new vista help system to install a dosbox or vmware or virtual pc or something like that. Just like you said.
Dammn, DOS is still mattering here. Microsoft has gone wrong with keeping compability of windowses till to XP and what does it causes? Security problems. Lots of em'.
Thinking security back 80's would have given us both. Now it brokes all the stuff which is fun. Most Windows games are total crap. Same one and only shooters with only a little of variation. Where are all the new game ideas? Where are all the fun games? For me it seems that most of the fun freeware game makers are moving to linux.
-Antti-
"Mike Wiering" wrote:

Yes, DosBox works fine, but for most games it's not fast / smooth enough IMO.
It looks like the problem occurs as soon as a DOS program tries to change the video mode. Even a tiny program that only switches to mode 13h (320x200) and back locks up just like any game.
Anyway, Vista should at least show some kind of message and close the game instead of locking up. Or better, let you setup an emulator for programs it doesn't support anymore and launch it automatically when you start such programs.
"AnttiA" wrote:
I know DosBox, it's awfully slow (even with right configurations and frame skip added and more cycles and etc...). Windows XP with Sounblaster emulator works much better... ^^;
Problem with Vista seems to be that there ain't absolutely no anykind of VESA support in console. In XP there was partitial, it was enought for most of games. huoh.. I guess I need Windows 98 installed on computer under VmWare Workstation with virtual soundcard...
"FarmerHE" wrote:
Try to download Dosbox (find link on googel) and run it in dosbox... if you can get dosbox to run all the good old dosgames should work (including those that did not work in XP)
"AnttiA" wrote:
Command and Conquer doesn't work, neither does Doom or Battle Isle or Descent... :(
-Antti-
"Zack Whittaker" wrote:
None of mine work - ZZT was a classic favourite ;o) doesn't work on Vista though.
-- Zack Whittaker » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared that up!
--: Original message follows :-- "Mike Wiering" <Mike Wiering@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message I've tried several DOS games and they all lock up Vista and I have to turn off the computer. A few gave a blue screen, memory dump etc., others just lock up.
Are DOS games no longer supported? These all worked fine under XP. I've tried setting the compatibility mode, but that didn't help.
Or (since all these games run at 320x200) does Vista no longer allow such low resolutions even for games? This mode isn't listed in the List All Modes - List of valid modes, but 320x200 works fine under XP.

Soon the Core 2 Duo will be here. Get the fastest and with latest DosBox you should have hard time finding a good game that doesn't run good enough. *
*I don't remember all that many good games after 1994 :-) Q2, BF1942 ... I don't think there were other games made after 94?? I mean, good ones of course!

"AnttiA" wrote in message

I totally agree with you. Vista should show somekind of message which says that "This dos program is not compatible with vista's command prompt." Or something like that. And then give a help note with new vista help system to install a dosbox or vmware or virtual pc or something like that. Just like you said.
Dammn, DOS is still mattering here. Microsoft has gone wrong with keeping compability of windowses till to XP and what does it causes? Security problems. Lots of em'.
Thinking security back 80's would have given us both. Now it brokes all the stuff which is fun. Most Windows games are total crap. Same one and only shooters with only a little of variation. Where are all the new game ideas? Where are all the fun games? For me it seems that most of the fun freeware game makers are moving to linux.
-Antti-
"Mike Wiering" wrote:
Yes, DosBox works fine, but for most games it's not fast / smooth enough IMO.
It looks like the problem occurs as soon as a DOS program tries to change the video mode. Even a tiny program that only switches to mode 13h (320x200) and back locks up just like any game.
Anyway, Vista should at least show some kind of message and close the game instead of locking up. Or better, let you setup an emulator for programs it doesn't support anymore and launch it automatically when you start such programs.
"AnttiA" wrote:
I know DosBox, it's awfully slow (even with right configurations and frame skip added and more cycles and etc...). Windows XP with Sounblaster emulator works much better... ^^;
Problem with Vista seems to be that there ain't absolutely no anykind of VESA support in console. In XP there was partitial, it was enought for most of games. huoh.. I guess I need Windows 98 installed on computer under VmWare Workstation with virtual soundcard...
"FarmerHE" wrote:
Try to download Dosbox (find link on googel) and run it in dosbox... if you can get dosbox to run all the good old dosgames should work (including those that did not work in XP)
"AnttiA" wrote:
Command and Conquer doesn't work, neither does Doom or Battle Isle or Descent... :(
-Antti-
"Zack Whittaker" wrote:
None of mine work - ZZT was a classic favourite ;o) doesn't work on Vista though.
-- Zack Whittaker » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared that up!
--: Original message follows :-- "Mike Wiering" <Mike Wiering@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message I've tried several DOS games and they all lock up Vista and I have to turn off the computer. A few gave a blue screen, memory dump etc., others just lock up.
Are DOS games no longer supported? These all worked fine under XP. I've tried setting the compatibility mode, but that didn't help.
Or (since all these games run at 320x200) does Vista no longer allow such low resolutions even for games? This mode isn't listed in the List All Modes - List of valid modes, but 320x200 works fine under XP.

heh, There where great games back at 90s but most games made in 80s defined the genres and they are like diamonds without polishing. ;D
I liked a lot of Amiga rally, Pinball and shooting games.
-Antti-
"droid" wrote:

Soon the Core 2 Duo will be here. Get the fastest and with latest DosBox you should have hard time finding a good game that doesn't run good enough. *
*I don't remember all that many good games after 1994 :-) Q2, BF1942 ... I don't think there were other games made after 94?? I mean, good ones of course!

"AnttiA" wrote in message I totally agree with you. Vista should show somekind of message which says that "This dos program is not compatible with vista's command prompt." Or something like that. And then give a help note with new vista help system to install a dosbox or vmware or virtual pc or something like that. Just like you said.
Dammn, DOS is still mattering here. Microsoft has gone wrong with keeping compability of windowses till to XP and what does it causes? Security problems. Lots of em'.
Thinking security back 80's would have given us both. Now it brokes all the stuff which is fun. Most Windows games are total crap. Same one and only shooters with only a little of variation. Where are all the new game ideas? Where are all the fun games? For me it seems that most of the fun freeware game makers are moving to linux.
-Antti-
"Mike Wiering" wrote:
Yes, DosBox works fine, but for most games it's not fast / smooth enough IMO.
It looks like the problem occurs as soon as a DOS program tries to change the video mode. Even a tiny program that only switches to mode 13h (320x200) and back locks up just like any game.
Anyway, Vista should at least show some kind of message and close the game instead of locking up. Or better, let you setup an emulator for programs it doesn't support anymore and launch it automatically when you start such programs.
"AnttiA" wrote:
I know DosBox, it's awfully slow (even with right configurations and frame skip added and more cycles and etc...). Windows XP with Sounblaster emulator works much better... ^^;
Problem with Vista seems to be that there ain't absolutely no anykind of VESA support in console. In XP there was partitial, it was enought for most of games. huoh.. I guess I need Windows 98 installed on computer under VmWare Workstation with virtual soundcard...
"FarmerHE" wrote:
Try to download Dosbox (find link on googel) and run it in dosbox... if you can get dosbox to run all the good old dosgames should work (including those that did not work in XP)
"AnttiA" wrote:
Command and Conquer doesn't work, neither does Doom or Battle Isle or Descent... :(
-Antti-
"Zack Whittaker" wrote:
None of mine work - ZZT was a classic favourite ;o) doesn't work on Vista though.
-- Zack Whittaker » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared that up!
--: Original message follows :-- "Mike Wiering" <Mike Wiering@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message I've tried several DOS games and they all lock up Vista and I have to turn off the computer. A few gave a blue screen, memory dump etc., others just lock up.
Are DOS games no longer supported? These all worked fine under XP. I've tried setting the compatibility mode, but that didn't help.
Or (since all these games run at 320x200) does Vista no longer allow such low resolutions even for games? This mode isn't listed in the List All Modes - List of valid modes, but 320x200 works fine under XP.

Has anyone tried VMsound?, i'll test some games as soon as i can, including DOSbox, the new version is fast, but VMsound or VDMsound, don't remember well, was great.
"Zack Whittaker" wrote:

None of mine work - ZZT was a classic favourite ;o) doesn't work on Vista though.
-- Zack Whittaker » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared that up!
--: Original message follows :-- "Mike Wiering" <Mike Wiering@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message I've tried several DOS games and they all lock up Vista and I have to turn off the computer. A few gave a blue screen, memory dump etc., others just lock up.
Are DOS games no longer supported? These all worked fine under XP. I've tried setting the compatibility mode, but that didn't help.
Or (since all these games run at 320x200) does Vista no longer allow such low resolutions even for games? This mode isn't listed in the List All Modes - List of valid modes, but 320x200 works fine under XP.

Try VDMsound, perhaps it will work, i'll test this later.
"Zack Whittaker" wrote:

None of mine work - ZZT was a classic favourite ;o) doesn't work on Vista though.
-- Zack Whittaker » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared that up!
--: Original message follows :-- "Mike Wiering" <Mike Wiering@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message I've tried several DOS games and they all lock up Vista and I have to turn off the computer. A few gave a blue screen, memory dump etc., others just lock up.
Are DOS games no longer supported? These all worked fine under XP. I've tried setting the compatibility mode, but that didn't help.
Or (since all these games run at 320x200) does Vista no longer allow such low resolutions even for games? This mode isn't listed in the List All Modes - List of valid modes, but 320x200 works fine under XP.

Try VDMsound, perhaps it will work..
"Zack Whittaker" wrote:

None of mine work - ZZT was a classic favourite ;o) doesn't work on Vista though.
-- Zack Whittaker » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared that up!
--: Original message follows :-- "Mike Wiering" <Mike Wiering@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message I've tried several DOS games and they all lock up Vista and I have to turn off the computer. A few gave a blue screen, memory dump etc., others just lock up.
Are DOS games no longer supported? These all worked fine under XP. I've tried setting the compatibility mode, but that didn't help.
Or (since all these games run at 320x200) does Vista no longer allow such low resolutions even for games? This mode isn't listed in the List All Modes - List of valid modes, but 320x200 works fine under XP.

Try VDMsound, perhaps it will work..
"Zack Whittaker" wrote:

None of mine work - ZZT was a classic favourite ;o) doesn't work on Vista though.
-- Zack Whittaker » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared that up!
--: Original message follows :-- "Mike Wiering" <Mike Wiering@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message I've tried several DOS games and they all lock up Vista and I have to turn off the computer. A few gave a blue screen, memory dump etc., others just lock up.
Are DOS games no longer supported? These all worked fine under XP. I've tried setting the compatibility mode, but that didn't help.
Or (since all these games run at 320x200) does Vista no longer allow such low resolutions even for games? This mode isn't listed in the List All Modes - List of valid modes, but 320x200 works fine under XP.

sorry for multiple posts, the system send me some errors...
"Gaius" wrote:

Try VDMsound, perhaps it will work..
"Zack Whittaker" wrote:
None of mine work - ZZT was a classic favourite ;o) doesn't work on Vista though.
-- Zack Whittaker » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared that up!
--: Original message follows :-- "Mike Wiering" <Mike Wiering@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message I've tried several DOS games and they all lock up Vista and I have to turn off the computer. A few gave a blue screen, memory dump etc., others just lock up.
Are DOS games no longer supported? These all worked fine under XP. I've tried setting the compatibility mode, but that didn't help.
Or (since all these games run at 320x200) does Vista no longer allow such low resolutions even for games? This mode isn't listed in the List All Modes - List of valid modes, but 320x200 works fine under XP.

sorry for multiple posts, the system send me some errors...
"Gaius" wrote:

Try VDMsound, perhaps it will work..
"Zack Whittaker" wrote:
None of mine work - ZZT was a classic favourite ;o) doesn't work on Vista though.
-- Zack Whittaker » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared that up!
--: Original message follows :-- "Mike Wiering" <Mike Wiering@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message I've tried several DOS games and they all lock up Vista and I have to turn off the computer. A few gave a blue screen, memory dump etc., others just lock up.
Are DOS games no longer supported? These all worked fine under XP. I've tried setting the compatibility mode, but that didn't help.
Or (since all these games run at 320x200) does Vista no longer allow such low resolutions even for games? This mode isn't listed in the List All Modes - List of valid modes, but 320x200 works fine under XP.